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This was an email from Christine Rothnie from NGHA on behalf of Fraser Stewart. It was sent out to the emailing list which has been circulating information regards the development of the Thriving Places. It is a statement of clarification and is helpful to set a bit more of the context of how things have developed and are developing. Many thanks to Fraser for this. I feel it is quite helpful and will assist the discussions as we go along.

"Dear All
 
Further to the meeting held in our office on 10th April I’d now like to set out New Gorbals Housing Association’s (NGHA) understanding of what was discussed and agreed :
 
1.       The Asset Mapping exercise being carried out by ODS Consulting on the instruction of NGHA is only a prosaic and comprehensive mapping of all of the organisations, groups, agencies and businesses, the services they provide and their physical and human resources in the Gorbals.  When completed it will be, at the very least, a useful and informative directory and, on this basis, all of the Voluntary Groups present agreed to provide the information being requested.
2.       The Asset Mapping exercise should not be confused with an asset based approach to community development.
3.       There are three key strands of work ongoing or imminent – the Asset Mapping, Inter Agency Collaboration and Community Engagement.
4.        The inter agency collaboration has, to date, focussed exclusively on the public sector delivering services in a more co-ordinated and efficient manner and has been limited in its scope.
5.        The Community Engagement has not been embarked upon and the process has not been defined by the Gorbals Regeneration Group.
6.       The Gorbals Voluntary Sector will form their views on how the community engagement (and, ultimately, community development) should be formed and implemented by August (please also see first bullet point below)
7.       The Gorbals Voluntary Sector will consider and seek to agree how it should be represented on the Gorbals Regeneration Group and also how it might be configured into sub groups and / or appoint representatives to respond to issues (like community engagement) and themes (e.g., youth, health, employment, welfare “reform” – all of which inevitably overlap, to one extent or another).
8.       The Thriving Places initiative must maintain a focus on developing individual and community resilience, confidence and wellbeing. It must support the Gorbals community to develop itself.
 
In addition to these points I would like to add the following from NGHA’s perspective:
 
·         The Voluntary Sector leading on Community Engagement, initially at least,  is entirely appropriate given the experience the groups collectively have. However, the community engagement strategy will need to be developed into a final proposal in collaboration (and, ultimately, agreement) with key agencies, particularly the CHP and Glasgow Life who will have a particularly close interest in this issue.
·         Improved service delivery through agency joint working and collaboration and consistent with the communities stated priorities and expectations is an express objective of Thriving Places. The voluntary sector have not been engaged in the collaborations to date and it is essential that the Voluntary Sector are engaged and informed so that they can judge the extent to which they can / wish / are able to contribute. It should be noted that the collaborations to date have been  limited and that little has meaningfully progressed on the big issues such as youth employment, welfare reform and elderly care.
·         NGHA wish to set up a process whereby the effect of what we collectively propose and implement is measured (as far as that is possible). We believe that agency collaboration, an enhanced role for the voluntary sector and community involvement / co-production / consultation / control / development can have a dramatic effect for the better and if we don’t measure the effect then the approach will not continue to be funded or promoted as a model of good practice.
 
I hope that this, and the information my colleague Chris Rothnie is sending you, is useful and helps take things forward.
 
Please do not hesitate to contact me if you wish to discuss any point in relation to these issues.
 
Kind Regards
 
Fraser"
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This was sent by Roz:
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Hi Again Greater Gorbals Voluntary Sector Groups,
 
The ODS consultants who are doing the mapping survey currently for New Gorbals Housing need our help to identify gaps in who they are consulting with so we get a picture that is really comprehensive about the Gorbals from the organisations perspective.
 
I’m attaching their list of all the Community, Voluntary and Public Sector Contacts they have already got. If you can find time to go through them and send the details of anyone not included to katy.macmillan@odsconsulting.co.uk she would really appreciate it.
 
Also, they are building a list of businesses based in Gorbals to contact next. If you know any businesses, even sole traders working from home in Gorbals, please would you pass on their details to her too?
 
 
Many thanks
 
Roz"
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This is the agenda for the up and coming meeting:
Meeting of The Greater Gorbals Voluntary Sector (GGVS)
Friday 16th May 2014
2-4pm
The Barn Youth Centre
AGENDA
 
1.       Welcome & Apologies (each representative to give a two sentence introduction of their org.)
2.       What is Thriving Place? (a short review of the Thriving Place initiative)
3.       Suggested Criteria for membership of the GGVS group
4.       Presentation of Asset Approach to Community Development (guest speaker TBC)
5.       Positive Partnership with New Gorbals Housing Assoc.
6.       Discussion re: commitment of Gorbals groups to using services of other Gorbals groups
7.       Representation on Gorbals Regeneration Group of GGVS members
8.       AOCB – training opportunities
 
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These are the minutes from the meeting on 7th May.
Enjoy
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All those interested or contributing should try to make it along.
The meeting is slightly earlier due to an area partnership meeting on at the usual time.

Hope to see many people at the Gorbals Fair meeting.
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The Gorbals Fair / Its the 9th June 2014!
«  The Gorbals Admin April 26, 2014, 10:43:23 AM »
So who is doing what for the Gorbals Fair this year?
It would be great to read whats planned for the day.
Anyone anything to contribute about the day itself or the planning so far?
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Glasgow City Council have a load of desks, cabinets etc which they are looking to recycle through local voluntary groups.
It is all currently being stored in the Twomax building and if anyone is interested then they can contact the local person who can arrange for anyone to view whats available.

Much of this stuff is of a really good standard and is surplus to requirements. A small donation is requested for a charity which is  McMillan Cancer Care.

If your interested then contact John on 07799 735893

Don't be shy its there for the taking!
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General Discussion / Sharing information
«  The Gorbals Admin April 25, 2014, 10:31:22 PM »
It would be good to be able to hear what discussions have been taking place between organisations who are engaged with NGHA.
A bit of sharing and inclusion would be beneficial for the Gorbals and the success of the Thriving Places project.
Collaboration at such a local level would be great.
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Received this from Bridging the Gap:
"To All VOLUNTARY SECTOR partners in Greater Gorbals,
 
We are pleased to invite you to the next meeting of this newly formed group
- on 16th May 2-4pm in the Barn.
 
Since the last one:
 
-  some people have said they don't know what it's all about and don't understand all the abbreviations so we will spend some time making sure everyone gets a clear picture of how Thriving Places and this group came about and how they fit into a bigger picture.
 
- some people have asked to explore more widely what works in developing communities so we are getting a speaker in from Inspiring Scotland.
 
- some people have said they want to ensure the partnership with New Gorbals Housing as the lead agency moves forward positively and effectively so we will find a way to achieve that.
 
- some people have said they would like Gorbals groups to use each other's resources more so we invest in this community so we will talk about that
 
We see Thriving Places as a real opportunity to create and develop partnerships across voluntary, statutory and business sectors in Greater Gorbals and to spend the next 10 years (and beyond) working together to improve the quality of life for its residents in ways the physical regeneration has not been able to do on its own.
 
We need everyone on board to make this effective and we want to make sure that when representatives of this group take the agenda forward they really represent your views, so please come and please bring your ideas, your concerns and your expertise.
 
See the proposed agenda below.
 
Warmly,
 
Roz (Bridging the Gap) & Joe (Crossroads Youth and Community Association)"

Meeting of The Greater Gorbals Voluntary Sector (GGVS)
Friday 16th May 2014
2-4pm
The Barn Youth Centre
AGENDA
 
1.       Welcome & Apologies (each representative to give a two sentence introduction of their org.)
2.       What is Thriving Place? (a short review of the Thriving Place initiative)
3.       Suggested Criteria for membership of the GGVS group
4.       Presentation of Asset Approach to Community Development (guest speaker TBC)
5.       Positive Partnership with New Gorbals Housing Assoc.
6.       Discussion re: commitment of Gorbals groups to using services of other Gorbals groups
7.       Representation on Gorbals Regeneration Group of GGVS members
8.       AOCB – training opportunities
 
 
 
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Having read the feedback document I am not sure if it gives a great sense of the discussions or maybe even the content of the meeting. The document content appears a bit unstructured and unclear as to who made what notes etc.
Just thought I'd say as to anyone reading it who was not there would not get a clear idea as to the intention or outcomes of the meeting.

Lets keep at it.

All the best for now

Anthony
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