September 2007

[TheGorbalsAdmin]

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To Sandy Mullan. A gentleman called Colin Mackie would be able to give you this information as he works at this and has helped people from all over the wold find out about their family. You can contact him on colin@southernnecropolis.com or info@southernnecroplis.com

Submitted by: Catherine McCann
Gorbals, Glasgow
30/09/07
Email: mccain68@btinternet.com

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I am trying to find any relatives of my grandad Patrick James Boyle born in Glasgow in 1908. He was in the Pioneers and married Mary Anne Kilkie at st Francis Church in the Gorbals in 1935. I have a few addresses for Mary Kilkie who was a shirt machinist but as to whether Patrick was around then i just dont know. The addresses are 4 Roukenburn st Thornliebank around 1933, 132 South Portland St Gorbals. My dad was born Thomas John Kilkie but grew up with the name Boyle, he was born in 1933. I think my grandad became a butchers assistant and i know he died at 10 1/2 Eglinton St Gorbals in 1946 and was buried in a paupers grave, could anybody tell me if there is a way to locate this grave? If there is anybody out there who feels they may be related to anyone listed here no matter how remote or even if you just knew any of the names could you please get in touch and help me to fill in spaces, any info! All the best to you, Tom Boyle.

Submitted by: Tom Boyle
Leicestershire, England
30/09/07
Email: thomasboil@tiscali.co.uk

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I am looking for anyone who can remember any of the old pubs in the Gorbals. Can you name a pub thats been demolished in the city of Glasgow? If so please get in touch. www.oldglasgowpubs.co.uk or john@oldglasgowpubs.co.uk

Submitted by: John Gorevan
Glasgow, Scotland
30/09/07
Email: john@oldglasgowpubs.co.uk

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Myra Amelia McKinlay or Owen Dougan i think would be the best bet for you for the question on: lamplighters: as i read there posts n they seem to hiv a wealth of knowledge of the gorbals wit i know of lamposts are imbeded in the lumps on my forehead terrible habit of bumping into them especially late at nite after watching the horror movies at the paragon always managed to stay in for the second hoose n walk down cumberland st into lawmoor st only a kid at the time n the street empty. I would keep looking behind in case the vampire jumped oot on me a few inches from a lampost i always turned roon "Fn" poles had sharp edges n while i rubbed the lump i would bump into the next one should hiv been nick named "pinball" moral of this story is never mind wits behind! u cant change it! always look forward to better times n you wont hit a lampost! sorry i cant help Myra awera best ten quid

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
30/09/07

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Maria - I used to go to the shebeen in lawmoor st n collect the empties as soon as i seen the yanky sailors heading there i would wait a few hours n head straight up the close one up next to galbraiths dairy. I didnt care if there was none the woman who ran the place always answered the door n her negligee my eyes popped out like they ones on the springs i had to stop going there for empties as i was developing a stutter "h h hiv y y yi ggg" here kid take these afore yi become epileptic" (empty bottles) haha!

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
30/09/07

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Does anyone know of Eddie Logue from the Gorbals (Crown street, I think) and then Castlemilk. Eddie was a fellow apprentice electrician in Fairfield's Shipyard, circa 1955 - 1960. At one time he was in the St. Francis Boy Scouts

Submitted by: John Penman
Richmond Hill Georgia, USA
29/09/07
Email: jpenman@coastalnow.net

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I was nine in 1954, and i went with my mammy to get the keys to the new house in castlemilk to the factors with her, that was a big deal an inside bathroom and a new house, mammy said i was was lucky to her that day. As they handed her the keys to our new house, after all these years i still think about that, we were so happy.

Submitted by: Marie
West Palm Beach, USA
27/09/07
Email: mariv@comcast.net

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Anyone remember my pals in saint bonnies, margaret curran, margaret robinson, Jayne weir, margaret mcglone and margaret brown, all margarets haha. I now live in u.s it was the late fifties. Will always remember them.

Submitted by: Marie
West Palm Beach, USA
27/09/07
Email: mariv@comcast.net

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FAO Ekky - I'm glad you got in touch ive been holding onto your 3 pounds change, i put it in a trust fund for you give me your bank details and i will send it to you lol

Submitted by: Pat Holland
London, England
27/09/07

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FAO: Alex Alum - yes Alex there was a pub at the corner of bedford st abbotsford place i cant remember the name but i bet owen duggan can tell you. Alex i used to play with you when we were we boys in nicholson st we were wee pals (fond memories great days) its good to see you and many other people I know on this site are still about.

Submitted by: Ekky
London, England
26/09/07
Email: ekkybo@fsmail.net

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FAO: Rita Moffat, did you used to go with Joe Bennet from salisbury street?

Submitted by: Pat McKay
Pasadena, USA
26/09/07

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FAO: Yasmine Simpson I have got all the info on the Austin's. Roberta ,Doris, Kathleen,Leonard, Arthur and Edward. I have also got a Robert and Arthur from Wosely St in the 1920's and 2 Austin's from Cumberland St. in the 1940', I will e-mail the info to you as soon as. Maybe you could share the info with Doris. Jimmy O'

Submitted by: Jimmy O'
Glasgow, Scotland
25/09/07

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OATLANDS!...Does anyone remember the name of the Allotment at the top of Braehead Street..They used to have a fete every summer and I remember my mum and I coming home at the end of the night with Flowers and Home Baking..Around 1962...But I believe the Allotments were there for a long time before.. Rita (Craig) Sweeney

Submitted by: Rita Sweeney
25/09/07
Email: setdancer@btinternet.com

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I lived at 102 Eglinton St was born in Camden St have sister Christine brother Stephen would love to here from family still living in area my family name was Porter my granny lived in Eglinton St for many years we lost touch with extended family, would love to hear from someone who could provide information about my father and bridgeton granny name Maggie Kelly or Potts.

Submitted by: Robert Kerr/Kelly
Malton, North Yorkshire
25/09/07
Email: helenkerr1@btinternet.com

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Does anyone remember, or know anyone who may remember, my mother and her family. Her name was Eileen Millar (or Miller) and she lived in Warwick Street from around 1939 to 1945 (from roughly age 13 to 19). She and her mother, Joyce and her younger sister, Ethel, moved to Glasgow from Northern Ireland just before the second world war and moved to Fife just after the war ended (or thereabouts). To the best of my knowledge Eileen attended Adelphi High School (Academy?) and when she left school worked for a short time in a fish shop then at Bilslands Bakery during the war. I know it's a long shot, but any info would be most welcome. Regards Joyce Chalmers

Submitted by: Joyce Chalmers
Wanneroo, Western Australia
25/09/07
Email: chasfam@iinet.net.au

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Trying to trace family of Frank and Sybil Boyle who emigrated to Australia in the late 1940's early 1950's with their family. I think there was a Frank and an Archie but do not know the names of the other family members.

Submitted by: Frances Paterson
Clydebank, Scotland
24/09/07
Email: Not Submitted

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Hello tae u aw just thought I'd drop by tae say that ST FRANCIS PIPEBAND have a CD out if anyone's interested you can get aw the detail's fae there site. http://www.saintfrancispipeband.com/ I have many memories of the band on a Saturday morning, you dont get that in England if only eh. Keep posting it's a great read mwahsss 2 1 and all xxxxxx

Submitted by: Francie
Hertford, England
24/09/07
Email: Xxfrancie1888xX@hotmail.com

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I was born in Warwick St 1947. Well as you know it changed to Nicholson St, anyway Bedford St pubs starting at the Mally Arms, The Tron Bar, The Clock Bar, The Double Eagle and The Boreen Bar. But I am sure there where 6. By the way I delivered to the Tron and the Mally before they closed as I was with Tennents Brewery for 32 years after I came out off a 8 year engagement with the Royal Scots Greys. Looking forward to my free bus pass at the end off this year. Went to Buchan St the Adelphi. I am a very happy wee guy. Content with life. Why cause like the rest off you great folk we all started from the Gorbols. I have a book I got over the counter in a pub called the Magic off the Gorbals. Tomorrow Monday the 24th in the Daily Record they are giving you the real Gorbals story by Colin McFarlane from Cleland st. Will say bye to you all just now. No matter where you are in this world always be proud to say you were born and proud to come from the Old Place (The Gorbals) Alex

Submitted by: Alex Allum
Cumbernauld, Scotland
24/09/07
Email: stal151rsg@yahoo.co.uk

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Ten Quid you are my last resort can you help me to find photos of the lamplighting in Carlton Place my dad worked there any info would be great Thanks

Submitted by: Myra
Glasgow, Scotland
23/09/07
Email: myrajigy1 @aol.com

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FAO Pat Holland I was sure it was you, I got into your taxi in London and when we got Kings Cross station I gave you 20 pounds and you shot off, I want my change.

Submitted by: Ekky
London, England
21/09/07
Email: Not Submitted

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For Ten Quid god bless you pal. Stuff these people who dont appreciate good language. Hey by the way talking about pubs what about the bluebird on the corner of Hospital St and Cleland St? That was my das pub. I also remember my brothers taken the bottles to get money on them and going round the back and punting each other over and getting back the bottles and taking them back and getting money on them again god what a laugh I came from 122 Hospital St. Been in New Zealand for 33years and the Gorbals is still mine.

Submitted by: Maria Welsh
Dunedin, New Zealand
21/09/07
Email: terry_maria@hotmail.com

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DORIS. YES I THINK IT HAS ALOT TO DO WITH THE EDUCATION YOU LEARN. SO I AGREE WITH ROBERT. AS FOR YOU SPEAKING SPANISH IN SLANG ALSO.,JUST TELLS YOU WHAT I MEAN. COMING FROM THE GORBALS I DONT THINK YOU LEARNED THAT IN SCHOOL SO TAKING A GUESS AND WHAT I HAVE READ OF YOUR COMMENTS THROUGH THIS BOARD IT MUST BE ALL THE SPICS IN YOUR FAMILY. SEE WHAT I MEAN. ITS AS I YOU NEVER LEFT THE GORBALS.

Submitted by: Frank Massie
Newburg. NY, USA
20/09/07
Email: frank@netscape.com

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To Pat Holland 13/9/07 Thanks for the info on the metal plates as I do have a memory of them -the word dwelling house and the number of people the flat was meant to house. It must have been up one of the other closes in the area-not in McNeil Street as Christina Philbin and her husband and sister are certain about that. And you're right there was so many infectious illnesses, TB being one.You mentioned 1862 as the date when the plates/plaques were in use. I guess the house I stayed in was older that. By the mid sixties they were tearing down the tenements in McNeil Street and they were easily over a hundred years old by then. Cheers Rita

Submitted by: Rita Moffat
Glasgow, Scotland
20/09/07
Email: Not Supplied

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FAO, Sandy Mullan, regarding your g.g.g. Alexander Fraser Thomson, if you send all the info to, registrar of births, deaths & marriages, 1 Martha Street, Glasgow, Scotland. They should be able to supply you with a death certificate(for which they will charge a fee), hoping this info. helps you. Regards, Owen Dougan.

Submitted by: Owen Dougan
Glasgow, Scotland
20/09/07
Email: g132yn@bushinternet.com

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Does anyone remember Murdoch Pope, a carpenter and joiner, and/or his daughter Janet (called Netta, at least as a child)who, from 1916, lived at 378 Caledonia Road, Hutchesontown, although Janet was born at 371? Her mother, also Janet (maiden name Cameron)died in 1923. I think Janet jnr was an only child but I could be wrong. I believe she left during the war (early January 1942 at the very latest) never to return, and that Murdoch was still there through the 1950s, possibly the 1960s and maybe even later. If anyone knows anything at all about either of them or their wider family please email me, I'd be so pleased to hear from you. PS If anyone could email a photo or two of Caledonia road in those days, that would be great.

Submitted by: Keith Newman
Not Supplied
20/09/07
Email: aknewman74@hotmail.com

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DAM Hi there about asbestoses i only found out a few weeks ago through a routine ex ray when the doc was getting me ready to put a stunt in my byle duct which has turned out great and its great to eat and enjoy a meal without being sick he will attempt to crush the stone that is blocking it end of the month i was a skeptic i didn't believe in all this asbestos crap as i called it REASON i was in an explosion when we fired up a boiler we put the canary in and no sign of gas as soon as we put the light to it BOOM!the whole thing went up lucky they are designed to blow backwards as there were a dozen of us at the front just like council workers but when we all got out safely we were more like Santa clauses covered from head to foot in asbestos over 40yrs now so when i read about folk living in asbestos fibrous houses and such getting the disease i just thought bull!why did i not get it? now i know it takes years to come out i will look into the compo side of it now i have! it and see what happens!awera best doris-- noo c a kin rite inglish bit it wisny as gid fun mer worryin bit boaby n wee aggie wull be mer happy as if a ker ten quid

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
20/09/07
Email: Not Submitted

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FAO Sandy Mullan USA The street where your ancestors were born was later named Gorbals St. the Registrars office is in number 1 Martha St. Glasgow phone number is 0141 287 7677. You'll maybe have to get the code for Scotland or Glasgow I don't know how far back they keep information but you could maybe give it a try. There were 2 graveyards in the Gorbals one still exists don't think anyone has been buried there for a long time it is Caledonia Road and the other was in Rutherglen Rd. The latter one was made into a rose garden but I think some gravestones are still in it. Maybe someone who still lives in the area could give you more information. If your GG parents were Catholics they would maybe have got buried in Dalbeth Cemetary which is in the eastend of Glasgow and was only for Catholics or in St Convilles but don't know how old these graveyards are. If I can find anymore info I will pass it on to you. Hope this helps you.

Submitted by: Amelia McKinlay
Glasgow, Scotland
19/09/07
Email: ameliamckinlay@msn.com

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Matt Burke (junior) here, born in 1950 in Nicolson Street, Just want to say hello to all friends also does anyone remember my dad Matt Burke? My uncles Alec and Chic? Would love to hear from you!!!

Submitted by: Matt Burke
Glasgow, Scotland
19/09/07
Email: linziburke@btinternet.com

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BOB KIDD i sent you a picture of ester and family i would like to know if you got it thanks n as fer u 2 boaby n aggie gee us awe a break i fer one like ti read ten quid n doris"s wee ancedotes they r true gorbalonians i came from florance st. some 50yrs ago n hiv a n old friend called Willie McCall fi waddel st came here 1920 6yrs old n every month or so we look up this site n hiv a gid laff tryin ti read them 2s ritten n willie after awe these yrs starts too talk like he wis still in the soo side as he caws it you r lucky people if thats awe the problems u hiv wullie crack open anither bottle of red wee betty

Submitted by: Wee Betty
Brisbane, Austalia
19/09/07

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DAM HIV A WEE SING ALONG WI THE BIG YIN I've been wi' a couple o' cronies, One or two pals o' my ain; We went in a hotel, and we did very well, And then we came out once again; Then we went into anither, And that is the reason I'm fu'; We had six deoch-an-doruses, then sang a chorus, Just listen, I'll sing it to you: I belong to Glasgow, Dear old Glasgow town; But what's the matter wi' Glasgow, For it's goin' roun' and roun'! I'm only a common old working chap, As anyone here can see, But when I get a couple o' drinks on a Saturday, Glasgow belongs to me! There's nothing in keeping your money, And saving a shilling or two; If you've nothing to spend, then you've nothing to lend, Why that's all the better for you; There no harm in taking a drappie, It ends all your trouble and strife; It gives ye the feeling that when you get home, You don't give a hang for the wife! I belong to Glasgow, etc.

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
19/09/07

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Agnes Herrity its a long time since u were a girl more an auld wumin n too young to remember the REAL GORBALS i still speak every week to folk that came from the good old days n they say "you hivni lost yer accent" n i never will. i came here to better mysel no to lose ma accent n why did u wait for robert WHO HAS DEFINATELY LOST HIS to jump on the band wagon, a gorbals person would never complain just give ye a bit o banter back n laff it aff iv never been english always will be a KELT![celt for you] ten quid

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
19/09/07

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Anne O'Neill, I tried emailing you today but I cannot access your email address. It keeps being returned as "undeliverable."

Submitted by: Margaret Burgdorf
Westfield, NJ USA
19/09/07
Email: glenmornin@aol.com

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Trying to get a hold of Patsy or Nancy shankland are they on the net ...Lost touch and trying to get a hold of Marie

Submitted by: Irene Dumbreck
Toronto, Ajax
18/09/07
Email: scotch_lassie@hotmail.com

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Hello there fellow gorbalians! further to my earlier messages... my book... The Real Gorbals Story (mainstream publishing) is now out and you can get it on line at tesco books or amazon..it is also in waterstones...i lived in the old gorbals for more than 20 years (crown street up the bank close) and i spent the last three years writing it...i have tried to be honest about the old place and more importantly i have tried to capture the everyday humour and patter that kept everyone going! thanks for all your interest so far! i didn't realise there were so many gorbals people worldwide and this site is brilliant at bringing us all together. colin mac

Submitted by: Colin Mac
Pontypridd, UK
18/09/07
Email: colinmacuk@yahoo.com

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Hi T Q, that wis pure magic on the Garngad, my hubby he enjoyed it in fact they got moved to Blackhill, and a lot of the family to Germiston. His close was on the street was right next door to the police Station and some big Cemetery up the road and A.T his window looked right out to the I think Jewish part. Did not make my trip to the East Coast, but did not lose anything on my plane ticket. as still not ready yet but will be soon. Want to go back East before it gets to cauld.(cold) See a lot of Talent to come up wi that wee story again pure magic (great) Whit is it wi (with) these peple, no one asked them, how they speak and dont know humour when they see it, I bet Billy Connelly would be laughing his head aff (off) He used to come into our place of business, and we had some good laughs about his trips to the States, and I remember seeing one of his shows in Santa Monica when some loose lipped Glaswigin was slagging him, boy he put her in her place he did it so well that even she had to laugh. nice man I enjoyed talking with him. on how they make jokes about life, and I wonder if that they take themselfs to serious, oh well cannie (cannot) please everyone. Who cares how they speak, but gies a brek (give me a break) wonder if we spoke like that just to hurry up the conversation. And T.Q funny when we were attending School we spoke as they say the Kings english, but as soon as we left the school it was back to gies a peece (give me a sandwich) and what ever else in slang, I mean who really care. So still laughing at your wit and gled (glad) that you have it. So enjoy life the best yi (you) can. Oh and the same to all of you NICE people oot (out) there God Bligh me seems that ah (I) cannnie help masulf. (self) DAM (smile) On News Flash they at last got that get O.J Simpson cocky cant think of a better word to describe him.

Submitted by: Do Slo,
California USA
18/09/07

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FAO Jack:- Basingstoke The names are on their way, I remember Swanny Divers, Mr Curran, Mr Farrel, Miss McGuire, Mr Scanlin. Jimmy

Submitted by: Jimmy'O
Glasgow, Scotland
18/09/07

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I went to abbotsford prim, school 1956-61, I remember Denis Bowden, Ronnie Sanger, David Gilmour, Kenny Morrison, James Young, David Elliot, Robert Hamilton, Margaret Mills, Marion Young, Agnes Pettigrew, Ann Rutherford, Jean Jamieson, Esther McCombe, Marion Gibson, Margaret Black.

Submitted by: David McFarlane
Glasgow, Scotland
17/09/07
Email: Edaviemcf@hotmail.co.uk

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I have a book called the gorbals an illustrated history by eric eunson anyone from the gorbals 40s 50s 60s this book is a must the photos are amazing it takes you right back it cheers pat.

Submitted by: Pat Holland
England, London
16/09/07
Email: patlyonsholland@hotmail.co.uk

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Hi, Trying to trace our families in scotland. Several sets of Grandparents. I have learned that my Great Great Grandfather, Alexander Fraser Thomson died in an infirmary in Gorbals, Glasgow, Scotland in 1878. He was boarding with a Mrs.McCormick and her husband James. They lived at 96 Main Street gorbals Glasgow. His wife was Henrietta McLean Thomson. I know this is ancient history, but worth a try. Would anyone have knowledge of the name of the cemetery that he may be buried in there in Gorbals? Where records may be kept of deaths?. Any info would be appreciated. Sandy

Submitted by: Sandy Mullan
Rock Falls, Illinois
16/09/07
Email: skm4491@yahoo.com

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Does anyone remember Mr. Fish from Hayfield School? My dad is always telling me stories about him.

Submitted by: Sandra Masson
Orange County, California
16/09/07
Email: massonsandy@yahoo.com

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Hi Ten Quid, seems like some one is acting like some body stole his peever. Any way I do hope that you feel much better as it is a tough one you have. Were did the Abesto come from some job? and dont you get some kind of compensation? Here in this country they have adds on the Television for Abesto and who you sue to pay for the terrible damage it has done to a lot of people. Big Slugger says hello to you also Ackie. I wont make his party been sick and it is all the bliddy side effects from the Jack n Jills (pills) but will be over soon. Have to agree with you on Doctors they scare the Be Jeesus oot me. OOPS did it again used slang sorry to all you folks that dont understand it, but come on really. Dont some people understand a joke or may be that they lacking in humour. So again T Q enjoy life the best that you can and say hello to your Fork n Knife (wife) OOPS did it again (grin). Sorry if some of you folks took offence poor Robert he just dont get it. Oh by the way I speak Fluent Spanish also, may be I should try letters in that language but try not to use any Spanish Slang it is every were Slang that is. So again LANG MAY YIR LUM REEK (long and good life) hiv tae expain everything to some folks. I think the patter is great and how you put it. Again all the best Doris

Submitted by: Doris Austin (aka McIntyr)
SL, USA
16/09/07

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Robert Robert Robert, it has nothing to do with EDUCATION , dont know were you and your SCOTs friends come from in Glasgow but there are books on Glasgow slang and if we cant laugh at ourselfs more the pity. I can only speak for my self, but can hold a coversation with any one and it is not in Glasgow slang, so I think you should lighten up and worry about some thing worth worring about. Seems to me there is always some unhappy camper out there, and no offence but you sound like one of them. I do hope that you understand this letter, and in fact may be I was not printing for your benefit but if you are from the Gorbals to bad that you do not understand a bit of humour or take the time to. In fact it is quite good how a lot of the words ryme, so tell your other Scots friends to much more in life to go on about rather than a couple of people having a REAL GOOD LAUGH listen HA HA HAHA HA feels good does it not. all the best to you and the rest of your friends sincerly Doris Oh and it is not stoopid as my American friends would say Doris tell me some more of those meanings see some people think it is a trip, Question for you pray tell are you one of them Phoney Yanks as soon as you landed all at once spoke or tried to speak like a american ? Not that I really care, as I cant stand a nit picker again hope that you have a nice life and may your "GOD bless you.

Submitted by: Doris Austin (aka McIntyr)
SL, USA
16/09/07

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Hi i only posted on here the other day, ive heard nothing but i now have a few more details about the people im looking for. JOSEPH PATRICK ALEXANDER MCNEIL LEE, who is my dad lived in the gorbals around the 60's and 70's. His brothers name was Patrick and they had four sisters Sandra, Margaret, Elizabeth (Betty) and Mary. There mother who i think her name was eileen had red hair and was married to Mr Muir. Joseph Lee was born around 1950, i know he lived in Redcarr for a while and Burnley. Patrick his brother worked at a bakery. And there sister Sandra was the youngest she would be in her 40's now. If you are any of these people or are related or even just remember them, please get in touch, i would really love to hear from you. I never met my dad or any of his family, there stuff id love to be able to tell my 2 children and things id love to know myself. Im 34 years old now and its time to fill in the gaps, some of my info may be slightly wrong being 34 years ago lol. ! heres hoping someone can remenber, thanks for reading this Cristie

Submitted by: Cristie
Burnley, England
16/09/07
Email: dave_cristie@hotmail.com

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I lived at 29 hospital st near the clyde. I have two bro.s billy & jim [known as gabby] He hung about with jimmy boyle, and ended up in prison, just like him all his life. We lived across from the sawmills in hospital st, my mum was jeannie & dad wullie. and my granny was flora. We moved to balornock. I went balornock school, then petershill school,we then moved to germiston Were i went to work, for binnies steel rolling mill which was off petershill rd. as a wain i used work to for a guy in kinningpark selling coal brickette's on a saturday. I move to manchester in 1965 I was 17.

Submitted by: Robin Hayes
Manchester, Lancashire
15/09/07
Email: bombpipe@hotmail.co.uk

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I just found out about this website, I would like to keep in touch with someone. I lived at 153 Matheson Street. I went to St.Francis school and the to St.Bonaventures. I am currently living in Long Beach, California, USA. I am 65. If anyone reconizes me please write back. Thank you.

Submitted by: Philly Callaghan,
USA
15/09/07
Email: grecall@verizon.net

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DAM JIST FER U - Oh father dear and did you hear new houses they have built and some of them in Easterhouse and some in Castlemilk, Balornock and Barmulloch too they’re building them like mad, and now they’re taking our friends away from the dear old Garngad. Oh Garngad! Oh Garngad! upon you some folk frown, I never thought I would live to see your buildings crumbling down, they may send me up to Drumchapel or the Milton scheme my lad, But they’ll never take away my heart from the dear old Garngad. Remember Paddy’s Castle and the bowling alley too remember yon blind window where, we used to bill and coo, McGregor’s land and Syme’s land oh don’t it make you sad to think today they’ve passed away from the dear old Garngad They’re building houses everywhere they’re building them with skill, They’re building them in Carntyne and even in Priesthill, they may send me away to Siberia or even old Baghdad, but they’ll never take my heart away from the dear old Garngad. On Villers Street and Cobden Street And the good old Rosemount Pawn, They’re all knocked down But on that ground skyscrapers now adorn, Yet still there’s one thing that keeps bothering me Oh how I get so mad, For they’ve changed the name to Royston now Instead of Garngad.

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
14/09/07

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FAO ten quid. I was pleased to see someone else has written to ask you not to use that silly talk in your emails. I am a glasgow girl of 59 years and will always be, the only people who talk like you are on the old black and white movies, and half of them have never lived in scotland. Come on ten quid gessa break.

Submitted by: Agnes Herrity
Glasgow, Scotland
14/09/07
Email: agnesherrity@hotmail.co.uk

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Christina and James Philbin Your story about the monkey was hilarious. And the wee song made me smile. You both have such a treasure of memories -long may you both enjoy them! The main bit I miss so much about the Gorbals is the humour and the big belly laughs. You know the big family my Grannie, Annie Moffat had. Hard times and sometimes not knowing where the next meal was comming from was a constant problem. But Gorbalites are nothing if if not resourceful-it was said that my Grannie could make a halfpenny turn somersaults.I could relate a thousand wee funny stories connected to this, but one springs to mind and occurred when my Grannie died when I was 6 years of age(1949) and my Grandfather took over cooking the family meals. My Grandfather was on the dinner rota-not so much the loaves and fishes problem as how to make a half pound of mince feed nine hungry mouths. The Co-operative shan shop in Ballater street was often a solution where 3d worth of tea bread was used as "afters" and used to bulk out! a meagre main course. Wee strategies like lots of onions, carrots, gravy, totties and such were commonly used. And of course "doughballs" were used to spin out the meal. Looking into the empty food press my Grandfather spied some currants that had been used about a year before when a clootie dumpling had been made."ACH I'll mix them intae the doughballs an that'll save money own the teabread" piped up my Grandfather. And so it came to pass that currant douballs became a speciality, nay even a family tradition and upstaged ANY of the weird concoctions the trendy tele chefs come up with. I'm very grateful about the information about Frankie McGuiness- if anyone else can add news as to the whereabouts of her or her family I would be extremely happy. She was my mother's best friend. Christine, the bit about the number of people living in the house or of info regarding fevers etc must either have been my imagination or something heard or read! Thanks again, Kind regards to you and yours. Rita

Submitted by: Rita Moffat
Glasgow, Scotland
14/09/07

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DAM hi ther i think we have one o them queers from the record scots abroad found this good site most definitely not a Glaswegian no sense of humor n not a gorbalonian either so we will just ignore him n not let him destroy this wonderful site called GORBALS ANECDOTES AWERA BEST DORIS HIV A GOOD TRIP TEN QUID

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
14/09/07

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Does anyone mind my family from 180 mathieson st, james, anne, william, martha, gerald, david and joseph all went to st francis then bonnies then on to castlemilk barlia dr glenacre ballantay luv anne

Submitted by: Anne O'Neill
St Catharines, Ontario Canada
13/09/07
Email: anne.o.neill44@hotmail.com

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FAO rita moffat in 1862 houses were labled with a metal plate on the doors detailing how many cubic feet they contained ie 1,450 cubic feet was considerd app for four and a half adults a kid under 8 was half an adult also the biggest cause of death was bronchitis then tb and whooping cough for kids hope this helps you take care

Submitted by: Pat Holland
London, England
13/09/07
Email: patlyonsholland@hotmail.co.uk

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My grandmother worked in a Fish Market in the Gorbals. She lived at 25 Eglinton Street Her name was Catherine Kane and my mother's maiden name was Margaret Kane. Can anyone remember back to the 1900 to 1915 era, and know anything about the Kane family Thanks so much.

Submitted by: Cathy Bolger
Vancouver, Canada
13/09/07
Email: wabolger@shaw.ca

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FAO: Jimmy o hi i was at bonnies roughly the same time as you teachers i remember were joe rice, mr divers, mr berry and a few others, could you please e-mail me the register of names you mentioned much appreciated old bonnies boy.

Submitted by: Jack
Basingstoke, Hants
13/09/07
Email: jduffy4@sky.com

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FAO Andrea, Sorry Andrea it was Pat McMenemy who married a girl from Springburn second name Mitchell, as soon as i see her brother Malky i'll get her first Name and send it to you.

Submitted by: Jimmy O'
Glasgow, Scotland
13/09/07

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Eddie I'm guessing your name is crawford from the other posts. My da was the caretaker in the baths gorbals-calder st.n strathbungo school but u hiv me beat i dont remember the scaffolding n the gorbals but i will take yer word on it as i hiv trouble remembering 5 minutes ago, but i remember diving off the rails at the top of the baths i always did it me n tam were good pals until i became a nut case n started runnin around wi the cumby n especially chick mcqueen so daft we seen our image on a shop window we would stick the head on it. Thank goodness i grew up n took a liken to reading n learning remember a boy from kidson st' who made a rocket n fired it in the polmadie cowpe was promised a job with nasa i often wondered what became of him anyone know? That was in the 40s well eddie tell me more about us as i have been battling cancer for years n do forget alot but glad i kept a lot of photos [my wife did] we always remember the good times - never the bad n they were many! awera best eddie ten quid

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
13/09/07

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Re- Amelia Mc Kinley will you please tell Bertie I will answer him soon and explain delay.

Submitted by: James Philbin
London, England
12/09/07

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Rita Moffat Re- 4/7/07 I remember Frankie Mc Guiness and her pal Frankie lived up No49 2up up to the front with her mother and her brother Trosky who went away on the boats he brought a monkey home once his mother had it as a pet she gad it on a long chain and it used to roam all over the house and used any little corner as a toilet think Frankie had left home by then as she used to ask Minnie McTear to mop the floor for her before Minnie was ill. One day the street was being dug up once again a cracked sewage pipe anyway the monkey was sitting out of the window and had a pee. The Irish workman looked up and said "Its a monkey" by this time Mrs Mc Guiness who was very fat and had lots of long hair looked out of the window the Irishman looked up and said "Be Jesus its mothers with it too" Frankie married Wullie Weir and think they went to live round about Camden street area I remember Wullie coming down to tell all the neighbours when Frankie had her baby I think she was! a few years older than me. Hope this info is what you are looking for.

Submitted by: Christina and James Philbin
London, England
12/09/07

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I am trying to trace an old friend of my 84yr old neighbour, I am looking for Julie Greenberg who lived in Thistle Street with her gran and went to Adelphi School. They both went to join up with the RAF Julie never got in, my neighbour did and after that they lost touch with each other. If anyone knows of the family please get in touch ASAP please.

Submitted by: Mary
Cumbernauld, Scotland
12/09/07
Email: daisymaisy100@yahoo.com

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Jimmy O'- I didnt go to bonnies only time i went ther wis for the boxin TAM wilson came runnin at me from his corner swingin arms n legs all at the same time i stepped out his way n took the gloves off n slapped him in the face worse thing i ever done he didnt let me forget it "chicken runnin away" he said trueth be told i never boxed an oranutang before n i didnt know what to do as he chased me round the ring until we both went down for the count with laughter we were good pals n those days aye n many more too they were the days! ten quid

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
12/09/07

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My family (Slowey/Sloey) stayed in 29 Commercial Road in 1863, in fact my GG grandad was born in Reids Biscuit factory in Main St Gorbals. I wondered if any of his brothers or sisters Great great Grandchildren are still about?

Submitted by: Anthony Sloey
Glasgow, Scotland
12/09/07
Email: pancho42@hotmail.com

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FAO Doris McIntyre (Austin) i have Yasmine E-Mail address and will forward the information to her, i'm sure you will know most of them.

Submitted by: Jimmy O
Glasgow, Scotland
11/09/07

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To Maria Welsh - Sorry Maria I dont recall Terry I was at St. Bonaventures from 1951 to 1954 I am 68 now if Terry was there at the same time i would have known him then.

Submitted by: Jimmy O
Glasgow, Scotland
11/09/07

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To Andrea For your family tree, Tommy McMenemy married a girl from Springburn called Mitchell. I dont know her first name but will contact her brother Malky and get her first name from him. In 1951 The twins lived at 257 Lawmoor St they were born in 1938.

Submitted by: Jimmy O
Glasgow, Scotland
11/09/07

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Hi i know this maybe a long shot, but im looking for a joseph lee, would have lived in the gorbals around the 70's. im not sure but could have been mcneil Lee. Brother Patrick Lee, and 3 sister, Sandra, Betty and???. They will have lived with there mother who was married to Mr Muir. Im not sure of the mothers name just she had red hair. If anyone can give me any information, old storys anything at all, id be over the moon, cheers

Submitted by: Christie
Burnley, Lancs
11/09/07
Email: dave_cristie@hotmail.com

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Doing family research anybody out there know anything about an irishwoman sarah hagan and sister matilda who lived in caledonia rd, married john finn/phin had two boys john and patrick thanks a million.

Submitted by: Margaret Thomson
Glasgow, Scotland
11/09/07
Email: magsthomson23@fsmail.net

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To ten quid - sorry about your health and hope you get to feeling better, but could you and the other person writing on the site that gets in touch with you on here called Doris please try and write in English and not in that stupid slang that no one understands - not even myself being born in Scotland? It don't say much for education! Even my friends ask what the hell your trying to say to each other and they are Scots too.

Submitted by: Robert St. John Hartford,
USA
11/09/07

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DAM hoo R U gon the noo am oot the lock up fur a few weeks then back again big "C" awe clear the secret is ti keep away fea "Fn" doctors they always find somethin new! a went in a hurry wi ma liver couldni go withoot it [a bit o chick murray ther aye]it hid went awe infected n grew back L shaped "it wis only a lerner" pumped me full o antibiotics WHOOOAA! that stuff makes frankenstien look good ANDREA u kin always dream well doris it turns oot i hiv asbestos nea wonder a hiv only 53% lung capacity n a thot i wis oot o breath wi pervin oan they scantly clad 70year old sheilas on the beach YUUCKK!! ache well am nea honey masel a still look in the mirrer in the mornin n dont no wether ti shave him or slash the ugly mug talk aboot slashin JB isny in edinburgh he is in morrocco wi a belly dancer buildin hooses cost millions his young bro. lives in the burgh he has the "C" he went ti ma young bro funeral last year noo!noo!am no finnish [actually am an ozy now!] the "Bs"found gol! den staff in ma blood n thats nothin to day wi religin but it must be worth a few bob a hope the glesca twang gave yi a wee smile n u make the trip ti achies birthday n awe goes well awera best ten quid

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
10/09/07

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Re-Rita Moffat I did answer your questions before but the posting never appeared dont know if I made it too long or because it was Glasgow Fair week maybe everyone was on holiday so I will send you two or three smaller postings. Your query about the plaques on my side of the street I dont remember any neither does my sister and my husband who is now 81 said no there were never any plaques and he used our dunny as a store for his sticks he used to sell and used our wash house for washing themselves and getting teted for injuries when they played football. He tells my grandsons he had 3 jobs when he was 14 he was big Eddies van boy in Moores lemonade works delivered bagwashs for Victoria laundry got 4/- a week gave this to his Maw and kept the tips he also got 4/- a week for delivering papers for Maggie Mc Intyres shop. He sings them wee songs but as they were born and brought up in England they dont quite understand them "Old Mrs Murphy at the pawn shop door A bundle in! her arms and a baby on the floor, she asked for ten but she only got four, Old Mrs Murphy at the pawn shop door" one of many catchy little tunes.

Submitted by: Christina & James Philbin
London, England
09/09/07

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Webmaster, thanx for the good wishes n as u can see im oot o the hospitle but hivti go back in 4 or so weeks the doc. says im one of a kind cant undertsand how i keep beatin the diseases like "C" noo golden staff n the blood n they found asbestosis this time! My advise is "DONT GO NEAR DOCTORS" seriously i send this form rite another ti somedi else minutes later it dont go anywere but cyberspace kin u gi me a wee hint wit im doin rong n its no ma spellin i do it deliberate ti sound the way a talk gid fur a personal laff thanx ten quid

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
09/09/07

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FAO Doris McIntyre (aka austin) i knew john, robert, jeannie and mary torly. Mary was my mums best friend and godmother to four of my brothers. We all called there mum ..maw they lived in the close just up from us. I lived at 122 hospital st,.our name was eadie, wullie, robert, andra, danny and john. Well take care .. maria

Submitted by: Maria Welsh
Dunedin, New Zealand
07/09/07
Email: terry_maria@hotmail.com

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FAO jimmy o glasgow uk. Hi jimmy my husband lived in wolsley st with his granny. He went to st bonaventures his name was terry welsh aka unclehe had two brothers joe (the big yin) and john they went to live in castlemilk. Terry has since passed away but it would be good if you knew of him. take care maria

Submitted by: Maria Welsh
Dunedin, New Zealand
07/09/07
Email: terry_maria@hotmail.com

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FAO Peter Mortimer, if you scroll back to 16/1/06 and you'll find the names of the pubs from top of Cumberland St at Eglington St.end right along Cumberland St. to the end of it at Sandyfaulds St.

Submitted by: Amelia McKinlay
Glasgow, Scotland
06/09/07
Email: ameliamckinlay@msn.com

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Hello I'm trying to trace my family tree and wonder if anyone could help? My dads name was Francis Cassidy and his parents where Francis and Elizabeth (nee McKnight). They lived at 51 Abbotsford Place. My dad was born in 1945 sadly died in 2000 so no relatives to get info from. My grandad came from quite a large family so I think quite a lot of Cassidy's would have lived in the same area. My grandparents were married at St John's church Portugal Street. I came to the gorbals last month however the church and the old houses have been demolished.

Submitted by: Marie Marshall
Grantham, Lincs
05/09/07
Email: marielouiseone@aol.com

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FAO David McKay, St Johns was demolished in the 1960's there is a good chance the records you are looking for are in Saint John Duns Scotus RC church in Ballater Street.

Submitted by: Jimmy O'
Glasgow, Scotland
04/09/07

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Good to see a few names on the anecdotes. The Shanklins, Pat Mulholland, (where's Eddie), Charlie Screen, I knew his brother Tiddsy better, Johnny Boy Mc Clellan, John Gorman, 'Gommy' since he broke both his arms on a swing over the clyde, Mick Tolan, Frankie Murray, the list goes on. Somebody says he is glad to be away from all the neds but seeing and remembering their names brings back many fond memories of more innocent days when nothing was dirty or better just another adventure. I miss the loyalty of those days when friends were friends and you knew where you stood, or didn't stand. So here's to the Nancie's, the Wullie's, to Charlie and Tiddsy, Johnnyboy, Big Mick, Gommy, The Sinclairs, Jim, & Rab, the Fullertons, The Curries, James, Andy, Bert. And the many Gorbals people who blessed my life with so many memories. thanks a lot. Wish you awra best. Wee Mick.

Submitted by: Mick Connolly
Glasgow, Scotland
03/09/07
Email: weemick@btinternet.com

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FAO Davie McKay (Irvine) Hi Davie St Johns chapel has been demolished years ago, maybe you could try St. Andrews Cathedral in Dunlop St. off Clyde St and ask them. Phone number is 221 3096 maybe they could help you. ps St Johns was my parish was married from it in 1956. Hopes this helps you. Amelia

Submitted by: Amelia McKinlay (nee Welsh)
Glasgow, Scotland
03/09/07
Email: ameliamckinlay@msn.com

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Bliddy amazing at all the good news so many people just goes to show how small oor toon was and so many people wi a lot of good memories. Jimmie O My niece yasmine she has her e-mail address and any info is usually sent to her. I thnk that people knew more of my brother Artie and sister Bertha as they were more out and about than I was. So any info is greatly appreciated. Yasmine she is putting the family history to gether. We stil have not heard anything from the Jewish side but I think tam Lennie he is a cousin also. Rita I see you are working in the Black hill Easter house scheme, my in laws still live there and I think still go to St Rocs chapel and I think the wee Glen pub oh last names are Smith and McIntyre, you might bump into them oh and the Provan Mill Inn dont know if they are still there but I expect so. Oh a lot of good people so what is it that you do? I am leaving to go back East, and will catch up wi a lot of auld pals from Glasgow and other parts of Scotland Oh and one more name John Torly two brothers from Hospital St a pair of smashers. Hope to hear that ten quid is doing okey, bad enough geting older and who needs to be sick at this stage in life, so best of health to every one ha ha still laugh at the saying (we are the people) I think Artie and Frank got a skelp on the napper from ma da as he was singing and they were laughing at him saying (we are the people) belt right oan the rosery bead it was said in Glasgow before any of the other punters started to say it in other places. So again best to all Doris

Submitted by: Doris McIntyre (aka Austin) Slo,
Cal USA
09/09/07

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FAO Doris Austin And Ten Quid, I went to St. Bonaventures between 1951 and 1954 and a lot of people you speak abought were in my class. So I thought this might intrest you, I have been able to get the class register with the names and addresses of all the people in my class and what primary school they were at before they went to Bonneys. Hard to believe but there was 56 boys in our class no wonder we learned nothing. I would like a bit of advice, I would put this info on this site but do you think some people might object to it. I knew Artie went to a party with him in when we were about 15 in a lassies house I think in Elmfoot St. He might remember me. Note from webmaster: not a good idea to post names and addresses anywhere on the Internet!

Submitted by: Jimmy O'
Glasgow, UK
02/09/07
Email: Not Submitted

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Hi perthycottage or jackie don't you remember me from Castlemilk me and Winnie Curran were pals try and think and go on this sight I'll look for you cheers Anne

Submitted by: Anne O'Neill
St Catharines Ont, Canada
02/09/07
Email: yvonnemmcnally@blueyonder.co.uk

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Trying to trace my family history. My father William Frances McNally was born in Jan 1947 to Catherine McNally nee Barnett(we think this was her maiden name)and James McNally. They already had 4/5 children. James sadly died five years later. If anyone remembers this sad time or my fathers family I would really like to hear from you. Thanks. Ps my dads siblings were Anne, Gerald, James and Elizabeth.

Submitted by: Yvonne McNally
Cumbernauld, Scotland
01/09/07
Email: yvonnemmcnally@blueyonder.co.uk

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Hello, I'm looking for anyone who might know of Susan & John McKnight and their sons Joseph & John. They emigrated to Australia in 1920 and they lived in Rutherglen Rd Oatlands.

Submitted by: Heather McKnight-Bingham
Brisbane, Australia
01/09/07
Email: hbi91592@bigpond.net.au

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