January 2005

[TheGorbalsAdmin]

Answer for Lynne Williams, if you try Scotlands People again and look for G-Grandparents deaths if after 1855 you should get their parents names. Hope this helps. Doreen

Submitted by: Doreen Wilson
Glasgow, Scotland
30/01/05
Email: doreenwi2@btinternet.com
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Does anyone remember the Bruce family from 61 Caledonia Road in the 1940's? Submitted by: Millie Anderson Nairn, Scotland 30/01/05 Email: moyness2@btopenworld.com My grandad was born in the Gorbals in 1895 at Buchanan Court. I cannot find this address on any old maps - can anyone help?

Submitted by: Maureen Seville
Portsmouth, England
30/01/05
Email: Xmmseville@aol.com
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The Owners of The Clydebank Kiosk is a different Family. The Verrecchia Family that owned the Cafes in the Gorbals came to Scotland in 1908 From Filignano In the Molise Area of Italy and Resided in Paris Before Emigrating to Scotland. Ther names were Rosario and Angelina and the Family were Louis Emilio, Biaggio/Willie/ Mary Maggie Katy Charlie Ernest Sammy and Michael. A lot of Italian Families came to Scotland at the same time.

Submitted by: John Rowan
Edinburgh, Scotland
29/01/05
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Katherine, can't contact you at the e-mail address printed on your message. There's a colour photo of the Fogell's shop and staff, 1962, on TheGlasgowStory - go to http://www.theglasgowstory.com and type fogell in the quicksearch box.

Submitted by: Iain Russell
Glasgow, Scotland
28/01/05
Email: iain.russell@ntlworld.com
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F.A.O.Amelia McKinlay - The Vennie (Adventure Playground was in Cumberland Street, just next to where Stirlingfauld flats are now. I thought that Surrey Street was just across from that, under the railway bridge. I think there is children's play centre on the grounds at the moment.

Submitted by: Millie Jordan
Glasgow, Scotland
27/01/05
Email: Not Submitted
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F.A.O. Millie Jordan I lived in Salisbury St. Surrey St was through the back from us and the only playground that I can remember was the sand pit at the corner of Pollokshaws Rd and Surrey St. There was the swings at the junction of Cathcart Rd and Pollokshaws Rd but it was demolished and the Railway club stands where it was. Would you enlighten me as to where it was, as between Cumberland St and Bedford St there was houses and the furniture place Scragovitz, don't think I have spelt it right.

Submitted by: Amelia mcKinlay
Glasgow, Scotland
26/01/05
Email: ameliamckinlay@msn.com
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Folks were talking about Verrechia kiosks: There's a pic of one in Clydebank, at http://www.theclydebankstory.com/image. ... =TCSA00327

Submitted by: Iain Russell
Cathcart, Scotland
26/01/05
Email: iain.russell@ntlworld.com
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Thanks rsimon. This is my correct email address, sorry about that. This is a great site brings back lots of memories.

Submitted by: May Morrison
Glasgow, Scotland
25/01/05
Email: may.morrison2@btinternet.com
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My mother is looking for family history. Her mothers name was Martha Odger Smith nee Connor she lived at 224 Lawmoor St. Martha's fathers name was John Connor and her mothers Elizabeth Connor nee McNinch. Martha married married Duncan Murray Smith, of 121 Wolsely St in 1941. Duncan, after Martha's death married Christina Cambell Smith. All information would be great.

Submitted by: Susan Welsh
Kilmarnock, Scotland
25/01/05
Email: welshsusan@hotmail.co.uk
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Although I was really from the Gorbals, and moved to Dennistoun. My most wonderful memories are of Barrowland in the mid fifties until the mid sixties. My husband and I went there four nights a week. It was like a huge party especially on a Friday. Those were the days!

Submitted by: Isabella Cooper
Perth, Scotland
25/01/05
Email: richard@cooper9295.fslife.co.uk
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Does anyone remember the lecarno ballroom? Used to go ever Sat night in the early 50's loved seeing the jivers in the corner dancing, I remember Cal Stoddard was great anyone know of him? Submitted by: Pat Lynch Glasgow, Scotland 24/01/05 Email: glasgopati@aol.com I would like to know if anyone remembers me when I lived in the Gorbals at South Portland Street. My father owned a store, the Pakistan General Store on Norfolk Street. We left for the USA in 1962. If anyone remembers me and or my family, I'd like to hear from you.

Submitted by: Karum Din
California, USA
24/01/05
Email: kdintomdin@aol.com
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Does anyone remember going to the Portland Irish Dancing. (I think it must have been in South Portland St) It was really good, especially cos other dancehalls like the locarno, electric gardens, maryland and majestic all closed at around 11.00p.m. The Portland didn't close till after 2.00. I used to feel like a dirty stop out then. I well remember coming in from the Locarno with my boyfriend, and my mother making me go back out to the Portland with my wee sister Mary -she wouldn't have got going otherwise, so I dutifully went, and had a great time. The Swing was a dance, fairly took the wind out of you. Music was Showbands. Great memories - us girls all came home together laughing. Can anyone rememebr the Vennie - Adventure Playground in Surrey Street. No Health and Safety then - great fun, swinging from ropes so high, and tyres.God help my white sandshoes. Jumping from dykes, onto on old mattresses.

Submitted by: Millie Jordan
Glasgow, Scotland
23/01/05
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Does anyone have or know where to get hold of any Photos of McKinley Street, or Devon Street. I have even looked at the Mitchell library site to no avail. I have found photos galore of Abbotsford Place but nothing of the other 2,I know that they were pulled down years ago but that shouldn't make any difference, please can someone help.

Submitted by: Ronnie Simons
Letchworth Herts., England
22/01/05
Email: rsimonslove@aol.com
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Does anybody remember my father Charles Murphy’s family, who lived in Gloucester St., Lawmoor St and Mathieson St areas? I don’t know much about them their children were Charlie, Michael, George William and Jessie. My grandparents were called Charlie and Jean. Sadly both grandparents and Michael have passed away but I’d love to know more about this side of my family.

Submitted by: Caroline McCord
Glasgow, Scotland
22/01/05
Email: caroline.mccord@btinternet.com
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To May Morrison I tried to send you an e mail but it came back wrong address just wanted to say thank you for information about doctors, and to give you a little information about me perhaps you should check that your address on the site is correct. Take care. Ronnie Simons.
Submitted by: Ronnie Simons
Hertfordshire, England
22/01/05
Email: rsimonslove@aol.com
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I remember Dr Sofa and Dr Freeman, they were my doctors and their office was on Crown St between Clelland and Cumberland Streets. I remember the sweeties, I also remember that if you were sick they would see you that day.

Submitted by: Mary Millerick
Chesapeake VA, USA
21/01/05
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I would like to hear from anyone who knew the Boyces from Norfolk St Gorbals Glasgow. Submitted by: A Boyce Margate, Kent 20/01/05 Email: boycepaddy@aol.com I am researching a person born in 1917 in Mathieson Street, Glasgow. Does the street still exist and is/was it in the Gorbals district?

Submitted by: Eric Hopes
Ipswich, Suffolk, England
19/01/05
Email: erichopes@supanet.com
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I remember Dr freeman and Dr Sofa, we lived in 163 hospital st unit 1963/64.

Submitted by: May Morrison
Glasgow, Scotland
19/01/05
Email: may.morrison@btinternet.com
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Joe McGowan - Thanks for the "nougat" info. I live in the midwest, and am not too familiar with N.Y, but get to D.C. on occasion. I would be happy to answer any questions you might have, although I imagine you have done research through Google or your local bookstore.

Submitted by: Joan Fletcher
USA
19/01/05
Email: joanandart@msn.com
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I have come across some photos of the Pirrett or Perrett family who stayed in Rutherglen Rd. between Snowden St. and Waterside St. probably above the Co-operative shop and across from 474 Rutherglen Rd. where my family stayed before moving to Canada in Aug 1942. These would be taken between 1940 and 1942. If anyone of the family are online please contact me and I will forward them on.

Submitted by: Hugh Gibson
Beith, Ayrshire
19/01/04
Email: hughgibson@btinternet.com
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Hello, hope this helps. Fiona Duncan, who still runs Jazz singing workshops in Glasgow and Edinburgh. Jeanie Lambe sang with the band in 1964.

Submitted by: Isa
Glasgow, Scotland
19/01/05
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Does anyone remember Dr Sofa and Dr freedman? The Surgery was either in Crown St, or Cumberland St. I remember been given some sweets every time my mother took me to see the Doctor, this would have been between 1953 and 1965.

Submitted by: Ronnie Simons
Hertfordshire, England
19/01/05
Email: rsimonslove@aol.com
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Looking for Jeanette McGregor originally from Falkirk. Worked with her in Holeproof Melbourne Australia in 1975 married name Zanichelli had son Andrew who when I left Australia in 1977 was about three years old. I would love to see her again I go to Australia often.

Submitted by: Liz Daisley
baillieston, Glasgow
19/01/05
Email: lizdaisley@blueyonder.co.uk
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I remember playing wee shops in the back close in crown street I left there when I was young. This site is wonderful I cant keep away from it also learned to swim in the baths in gorbals hopped about on one leg until I finally managed to pluck up the courage to lift the other.

Submitted by: Betty Earl
portknockie, Scotland
18/01/05
Email: bettyearl96@hotmail.com
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To help some people. Remember the Kiosk well, hung about it in the fifties. Mary McGowan was lead singer for the Clyde Valley Stompers. Nougats can be ordered at http://www.marktoney.co.uk. Don't know about from the States. I'll be in N.Y. and Washington D.C. in May if you live near, who knows?

Submitted by: Joe McGowan
East Kilbride, Scotland
18/01/05
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Yes, the Kiosk cafe was on the corner of Cleland St and Gorbals St, and The Princess was next door to the Citizens Theatre in Gorbals St. The Verrecchia Family owned both cafes and also the Bedford Cafe in Bedford St.

Submitted by: John Rowan
Edinburgh, Scotland
18/0105Y
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Does anybody remember the name of the female singer with the Clyde Valley Stompers?

Submitted by: Lex Peat,
Scotland
18/01/05
Email: acmp@blueyonder.co.uk
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If the Kiosk you refer to was on the corner of Gorbals and Cleland St then I do remember your family. I'm not sure if there were tables, or if it was just a carry-out. I do remember going there every Saturday in summer when I was a little girl, carrying a glass jug and having it filled with ice cream. If any of your family are still in the business I wonder if there is still a company in Glasgow (or anywhere) that still make "double nougat" wafers. I would love to buy a carton for my grandkids. If anyone knows could you please e-mail me take care.

Submitted by: Joan Fletcher
USA
17/01/05
Email: joanandart@msn.com
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Has anyone information about the McMaster family who lived in Caledonian Road at the turn of the 19th century and previously Hutchesontown in the 1860s/1870s?

Submitted by: ET
Edinburgh, Midlothian
17/01/05
Email: treehouse_9@hotmail.com
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I was born in Priesthill in 1953. Lived at 11 Mckinley Street from 1958-1965 went to Abbotsford School, I remember Binns of Glasgow across the rd, the co-op half way up the rd on the other side, the talmud torah in Turrif st. Lennies the news agent in Devon St, Keatings the delli also in Devon St. My friend willie Paxton, my friend Freddie Millar and his family. In Abbotsford Place I remember Irvine Grossman, Melvin Bernstein, Michael Keating, The Stringers, their daughter Pamela and her Mother Isa had MS and was in a wheel chair and unfortunately Pamela also ended up in a wheelchair. Can anyone tell me whatever happened to Pamela? I know she got Married and had Kids one of them bacame quite a famous Boxer. Noone has mentioned McKinlay St that I have noticed, I hope that there is someone out there please email me.

Submitted by: Ron Simons
Hertfordshire, England
16/01/05
Email: rsimonslove@aol.com
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Several People have mentioned the Kiosk Cafe. My Grandmother and brothers, The Verrecchia Family owned this Cafe and the Princess from the twenties through to the late forties. Does anyone remember this family and the Cafes?

Submitted by: John Rowan
Edinburgh, Scotland
15/01/05
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Does anybody have a copy of a poem about when they knocked down an old Glasgow tenement they found a skeleton in the chimney? I read it at school but I now have difficulty finding it.

Submitted by: Colin Mac
Pontypridd, UK
13/01/05
Email: colinmacuk@yahoo.com
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This is the 60th. anniversary of the end of world war two, there must be some great stories out there of VE day in the Gorbals, I remember the POW's coming home especially my cousin Dennis Murphy, Bernald Duddy and my uncle Sammy Donnelly I think the parties lasted for a week there must be some good stories out. I am sure we would love to here them. Yours sincerely Thomas Kelly Donnelly

Submitted by: Thomas Kell Donnelly
Brooklyn New York, USA
12/01/05
Email: weecheekyman@msn.com
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I'm wondering if anyone knew my dad, Pat (Ting) Cummisky. He grew up in Naburn Street in the Gorbals. I don't know his mother's name but he had brothers - Hugh, John and one other, maybe even a sister (some of them had the surname Comerford). I'm hoping to go further back if this is possible. Cheers

Submitted by: Tony Cummisky
London, UK
10/01/05
Email: fakarata22@hotmail.com
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FAO Libby McMillan Australia, The Calton is another area in Glasgow which is across the bridge from the Gorbals on the eastend of Glasgow. The famous "Barras" is there it opens every Saturday and Sunday and people from all walks of life visit it when they come to Glasgow. You can get practically everything from a needle to an Anchor there. There is a shop on the London Road called Glickmans that sell every sweet under the sun and they are on the internet and the media has written a few stories about the family business. If you continue along the Gallowgate you come to the famous Celtic football club where the Celtic team who were nicknamed the Lisbons Lions because they won the cup played there. Hope this helps you. Amelia McKinlay

Submitted by: Amelia McKinlay
Glasgow, Scotland
10/01/05
Email: ameliamckinlay@msn.com
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Looking for anyone who knew my mum her name then was Christine McDermott (nee Peacock) married to big Andy McDermott, lived in Snowden Street 1959-1966.

Submitted by: Jean Skegness, England
10/01/05
Email: jean1965@btinternet.com
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In a previous post someone mentioned The Kiosk, and I'm wondering if that was the ice cream place on the corner of Gorbals and Cleland St. Also, anyone have memories of playing "shop" in the back and using broken dishes for money. If you found a piece with gold on it you thought you had died and gone to heaven!

Submitted by: Joan Fletcher USA
10/01/05
Email: joanandart@msn.com
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Geneen's Hotel/Restaurant was my grandmother's, Sophie Geneen. Does anyone have stories about it or my grandmother?

Submitted by: Lisa Laibman
Swampscott, USA
08/01/05
Email: spin317@aol.com
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Humour was always important when growing up in the Gorbals. 1960s Gorbals joke a cannibal walks into a pub at gorbals cross and and the barman says "whit kin ah get yee pal?" The cannibal says "Gi's a pint o' lager and...stick a big heed on it."

Submitted by: Colin MacFarlane
UK 08/01/05
Email: colinmacuk@yahoo.com
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I used to live in 60 Kidston Street. My name was Mildred Rorke, and had a sister Mary Rorke. I remember with good memories of how I could just cross the road to Camden St School. Games had their seasons, skates on the bumpy roads, bikes, whips and peeires, beds on the streets, playing schools in the closes, knitting, crocheting, also scraps. Playing hooses, and shops in the backcourts. We also had a jumble sale each year, and we also had a show, where the mums helped with the costumes. All the money went to Pat Roller of the Daily Record (who I thought was a real man!!) I also remember older girls dressed in jiving gear, dancing and all the people crowding round them. I also remember a cafe in Crown St, across from the Hi Hi, where we would go on Fri night with our pocket money, buy hot peas and a macallum. Next door was a bag wash, later to become a wash-a-mat. However my mam used the steamie in Rutherglen Rd, and as we got older we went with her and used the public baths - we had previously used the tin bath under the bed, (in the recess) which doubled up as our toy box. Of course the bed had been on bricks to allow this. I remember the Crown Picture Hall, The Palace Cinema, which was next to the Citizens. Citizens is now and also the Calder which was in Govanhill. My mum used to buy our weekly shopping in Cumberland Street; where all the mams went and humped it all back home. Daily she would use a dairy called Mrs Hoanze (spelling prob wrong) and also a Mrs Scott. Mrs Scott was opened very late and she used to have a wonderful "penny Tray" and sold us penny glasses of juices from old washed fish paste jars??!! some of my pals were Eliz McLaughlin, Linda Grant, Kathleen McLafferty, Marylne Greer. I can vaguely remember Dixons Blazes, cos our house looked right onto it - I used to think that that was "the bad fire". Long after I can remember a tale of the Molls Myre and pixies taking people way, and our mams telling us not to go over to the old site - Do you think it stopped us - I can remember a lovely summer where us weans had a ball, black (supposed to be white) sand shoes. Faces filthy, but I can remember being happy and looking forward to the next day. I also remember going to the chippy - we had a choice - the Havana in Caledonia Rd or the Deep Sea in Crown Street. My mother always went to the Deep Sea. After our dinner in the summer the mothers would be out chatting. that meant we could stay up late. We moved to Hutchiesontown Court in 1966 and can still remember the newness and the feeling I had then. Things and places have changed, but people are the same and its good to exchange memories.

Submitted by: Millie Jordan
Glasgow, UK
08/01/05
Email: Not Submitted
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I was born at 17 Thistle Street, my mother Mabel Elliott, died there in 1950 from T.B. my mothers parents all lived in the gorbals, my mothers family, brothers, Charlie, Billy, Gilbert, her sisters Jeannie, married to Dick of Dicks wallpapers, Sheila and Cathy. Cathy died in the sixties, I understand my mothers family were hawkers, my fathers brother, Denis died in the fifties in a motorcycle accident we lived, next to the pen in Thistle Street my mother and her sisters worked in the kipper store I believe behind 17 Thistle Street. My uncle Charlie did well for himself I understand he died in the middle of last year, he was probably worth a million or so when he died, I believe he was also involved in the city council somewhere. A family in no 17 used to look after us while my father was at work I believe their name was Thompson, I remember my dad coming home in the mornings and his first job was to kill the rats that were stuck to an old suitcase lid, recently I was in the Gorbals whilst they were building the new hotel in Ballater Street and one of the lads climbed up the pole and took down the Thistle Street sign for me I intend to make a sign for my home with it, I was very young in those days but that, with the death of my mother so young and us so young has caused me severe anxiety problems in later life, so get your thinking caps on, I would be really greateful for any photographs around about the very early fifties to help in my recuperation. Thank you, Denis

Submitted by: Denis Mochan
Kent, UK
07/01/05
Email: dmx123@fsmail.net
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Dear Elsa Beattie its about your poem for Joseph Hughes vc . I would like to thank you very much as I am his nephew Gordon Hughes son of his brother John Hughes I tried to send to your e-mail it wouldn't take. Please get in touch. Yours Gordon

Submitted by: Gordon Hughes
Glasgow, Scotland
06/01/05
Email: gordonhughes400@btinternet.com
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Looking for any old pals from Hells Kitchen or the Rosebud Pub from 1961 to 1965. Jimmy & Matche Campbell, Ann & Betty (later Mrs Campbell), Gerry Eldwood, Francis & Margaret, Jim Magowan, Eddie Devine darts part Billy & Willie and the twins sorry for those I've missed never had a good memory.

Submitted by: Gordon Hughes
Glasgow, Scotland
06/01/05
Email: gordonhughes400@btinternet.com
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Hi I am looking for information on Andrew Crawfor b:abt 1876 Ireland? Married Elizabeth McPhail b:1875 on 29/10/1897 St Josephs, RC Church Glasgow Scotland. Andrew used to work for the Indian Rubber Company. Regards

Submitted by: Katherine Bronnenmayer
Western Australia
06/01/05
Email: bronnenmayer@hotkey.net.au
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There is an excellent book called " The Gorbals", published by Stenlake Publishing. I bought it over the internet and it is well worth the cost. I lived on Hospital Street in the forties. Several lifetimes ago! Googled my way on to this site, and find it so interesting. Submitted by:Joan Fletcher USA 05/01/05 Email: joanandart@msn.com Can anyone tell me if the area called CALTON is in the Gorbals area. My mother's great grandmother was described in the 1851 Census as being a grocer (address 111 Reid Street Calton) - name Mary McCALLUM (nee Stewart). Can anyone help me with this - my mother is 96 and very interested in any results of inquiries that I can make that add to her knowledge of her family. Thanks.

Submitted by: Libby McMillan
Melbourne Vic, Australia
04/01/05
Email: libbymcm@tpg.com.au
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I realise this is a real long shot however does anyone know of an Ann McQueen who at one time resided on Cumberland St (near Eglinton St). We were both evacuees who went to Skelmorlie at the outbreak of the war.........Thank You Bill

Submitted by: Bill Crawley
Winnipeg, Canada
03/01/05
Email: wcrawley@mts.net
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Hi My name was at the time in the Gorbals when I lived there 1964 to 1970 was Hugh Greer most of the family was Irish on my fathers side. I remember lots of hard times and good times. I remember getting whashed standing in the sink? I also remember The migies? The dyke? The Sticky? The BiG RATS. The big hole at the bottom of the close? Outside toilets 145 Nicholson St. The wee Gas man who lite the street lamps? The Indian chicken shop at the bottom of the street were they killed them. One got away ma DA cought it and wee had it for Dinner he said (mone see this and cut its head of wah an axe and it ran about the room wha naa head. SCARRY TIMES (na food we were starvin). ahh the NUT shop under the bridge the smells. The roast peanuts and tablet shop? High Backs? The people were the best. Always in and out helping sharing what they did not have. Life the universe all that was good. Then the End no more Tenements one of the last to go? ahhhhh Looking for old photos of Street. All the best to the people past and present of the Gorbals I have lots of good sound hard time memories in Nicholson Street. Submitted by: Hugh Horne Glasgow, Scotland 02/01/05 Email: hugh_horne@hotmail.com A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE, MAY YOU FIND THAT RELATIVE OR FRIEND IN 2005. FROM. OWEN. IN BONNIE SCOTLAND. 1ST.JAN.05. 5.39PM.G.M.T.

Submitted by: Owen
Glasgow, Scotland
01/01/05
Email: ny231g@bushinternet.com
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Hello Folks Need a big help. Does anyone know of any of the following from the Inglefield St, Cathcart Road or Crown Street areas. Solomon Shearer, Robert Shearer, Ruby Holliwell, Doris McCaig, May Wilson. I am trying to fill in the blanks in a story and am really keen to speak to anyone who knew or met them. Thanks

Submitted by: Doug Shearer
Glasgow, Scotland
01/01/05
Email: thousandjulys@easy.com
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Hi My name is Alex Cameron, I was born at 144 Mathieson Street in April 1943, Mum and Dads names were Andy, and Maggie (Findlay) We stayed up Doctor Batemans Close, siblings were from oldest down, Margaret, Jean who Passed away early 2004, Robert, Andrew, and me. We all went to Mathieson Street School and Adelphi, except Margaret, she went to John Street. My Grandfather Findlay actually built the nut Roaster for the original man under the bridge in Cleland Street at his work, Dubbs's Engine works off Aitkenhead Road. If you know us PLEASE MAKE CONTACT. I am sitting here at 7.45 a.m on the first of January so from the Antipodies A GUID NEW YEAR TAE EACH AND EVERY YIN O YE, God Bless. Alex.

Submitted by: Alex Cameron
Christchurch, New Zealand
01/01/05
Email: madscottnz@clear.net.nz
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